Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

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    Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:19 am

    I'll be fighting for science. Who wants to fight me and be religion??

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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by jennma on Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:35 pm

    Dude, why not? I used to be on the debate team in HS...it's always fun to argue the other side. Lay it on bro! (And, I'm arguing for the side I would not choose)
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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:38 pm

    Alrighty then Wink I'll be science and you can be religion Wink

    I think that Robot or Kirby2 will act as judge here, so i'll wait for them to ask the first question. Very Happy

    good luck Wink


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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:12 pm

    Judge Robot Has just asked the question Smile
    Why Is Science Better than Religion? why is Religion Better than Science? what stuff makes it better and whyyyy
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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:23 pm

    *This is my opening statement much more coming Very Happy may the best person win jenma Wink

    Science is the answer.

    Science can be proven, religion cannot. Take the first passage of the bible for example:

    In the begining, god created the heavens and the earth...

    Alright, how would the person writing this passage know this? I know that god didn't write it himself...plus the Big Bang theory makes alot more sense than that passage above.

    People sometimes...fill in areas of the story where they don't understand..take a child in the dark for example...he may see faces, or a monster in the closet because he does not KNOW or UNDERSTAND what is happening/happened. Once his parents come into the room and turn on the lights, he will understand that there is no monster. Just like religion and science.

    Science can/has disproved re-occuring themes in the bible such as the theory of Evolution.

    Jenma, i await your response.


    =>Robot, please do not reply to this until jenma has replied. Also, do not make a decision until we have argued a little to make it fun Wink


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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by Coolio on Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:29 pm

    This is cool
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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by jennma on Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:57 pm

    Oooooh! This is so much fun!!! Okay, my particular translation of the Old Testament (notice I capped...I got some respect and manners... Smile ) goes on with Him willing there to be light, firmament, etc. and so on. BBT aside, I think we can all agree...string theory, quarks, and quantum physics withstanding, these constructs are pretty much scientifically confirmed as existing. Which begs the true question of this particular discourse: namely, can science prove the existence of God...or a creator to be more precise. Aaah, NOW you have something meaty to sink your teeth into. So, would it be fair to postulate that the dude, or dudette for that manner...which is another hot topic someone might want to explore later...,employed the scientific method to set down a few facts but had to CYA in an extremely unenlightened era? And remember, they imprisoned Socrates just for asking questions (Cicero, Galileo, Pythagoras, etc. ad nauseum)...so, attributing scientific fact to God probably made some sense, no? So, I argue that science would never have advanced in the first place if God hadn't been introduced to humans, and thus...RELIGION

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    Post by Guest on Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:13 pm

    Hmm, both sides are equel. Robot wants to know why do you think you will win this case?


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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:41 pm

    science is the answer to everything. That's why i'll win. Very Happy


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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by IF~ Anger on Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:30 pm

    can i join ? plz Very Happy i like debating

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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by Guest on Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:15 pm

    2011mjh wrote:science is the answer to everything. That's why i'll win. Very Happy
    but explain in more words WHY you want to win
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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:34 am

    =>Please wait anger, this trial is already in process, we'll make another soon for you to argue in Very Happy

    well i want to win because then i can pursuade people of science. That's the real thing, and i want to win to show people that, plus i don't want to lose my first case Very Happy

    idk how much more i can say..


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    Post by Guest on Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:34 am

    and what about the other side? what do they have to say about this?
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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by jennma on Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:39 pm

    Sorry gang, I spent yesterday barfing my guts out w/a stomach bug...I know, TMI. Back to the debate: In the 18th century the source of the sun's heat was unknown and today we know it is the result of nuclear fusion...a point for the pocket protector faction, lol! BUT, it also fortifies my argument here: science cannot overcome religion until ALL facts are knowable and accepted as irrefutable...meaning science still gets stymied by phenomena that they categorize as "unexplained" which means that unless and until (providing our species can even exist that long despite ourselves) there will INDEFINITELY remain the category of "unexplained" in science. H umans being what they are, there will, therefore, indefinitely exist the need to apply causal attribution to our experiences...translation: folks will attribute it to some religious belief unless and until science can prove otherwise. As physics and quantum physics have theoretically demonstrated that the universe is infinite, such a feat on the part of science is implausible at the very least...so religion remains. Plus, humans seem to benefit as a species from their need to have faith and belief...if you do your research, most of our laws, social mores, morality, etc. are rooted in these 2 constructs. Okay, your noodles are probably baked enough and I have to feed Kirby his dinner.... Shocked Shocked
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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:00 pm

    Well heres what i think:


    Science disproves relgion, and religon asks questions that science cannot answer. It will be a never-ending paradox (i think that's the right word Very Happy) no one will ever know for sure until we are dead. It will be a mystery until the day that we die what truly is.


    Are we in agreement?


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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by jennma on Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:10 pm

    I agree, this is one of those that could be argued until time runs out....even when I'm on the side of science at heart, but I'm hedging my bets anyway! You are a worthy opponent young padawan, keep the curiousity and questioning alive! study
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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:14 pm

    lol as are you Very Happy


    I'll consider this argument ending in a draw.


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    Re: Case # 013301: Religion vs Science

    Post by 2011mjh on Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:15 pm

    =>Trial Closed: Ended in Draw.
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